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« on: June 17, 2009, 12:52:40 PM »

The VQ engine's front 2 cylinders are starved of appropriate air flow due to the OEM design of the upper plenum and body which actually robs the engine of potential HP. A spacer installed between the body and the upper plenum allows for more air flow to the front cylinders correcting this issue.
Adding a plenum spacer is is considered to be the best bang for your buck in regards to performance bolt-ons available for the G35.
There are 2-3 different size plenum spacers available, however, bigger is not always better. The 5/16" spacer is considered to offer the best performance across your entire RPM bandwith. Any larger size spacer only offers more top-end performance. Keep in mind if you do decide to purchase anything above the 5/16" spacer, you will not be able to install your engine cover without rubbing. Motordyne makes a great 5/16" spacer. Expect HP to increase by approximately 12-16HP.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 01:40:59 PM »

 at what like 6,400 rpm's............
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 03:09:21 PM »

is this just on the g35 or g37 also?
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 03:23:18 PM »

never mind i answered my own question. i would say for the g35 owners it is a nice modd. people have been getting 10whp
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 04:08:02 PM »


A plenum spacer will indeed give you more air to the front two starving intake snouts, however, it actually gives you more volume in the entire plenum chamber from front to back.  The spacer is of equal thickness all the way around (vs "skewing" it to only lift the front). 
Gives the car a "throatier" sound too btw, besides the extra gains.

If you want to take it one step further and really address the unbalanced air intake situation, consider something like the Motordyne MREV plenum, which is a stock lower plenum that has had it's front air intake snouts bored-out, and the middle ones touched up a little too. It's main purpose is to directly address the starving front two cylinders situation, and balance all 6 of them all out on a flow-bench.

You can use them together for maximum gains.  Got both myself . . (MREV Plenum & 5/16ths spacer).
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2009, 01:32:15 AM »

How hard is it to replace the lower plenum with the Motordyne one?
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2009, 12:04:14 AM »

How hard is it to replace the lower plenum with the Motordyne one?

Not very, esp. if you've done it a time or two . . I think it comes with the Iso-Thermal gaskets now (used to be separate when I ordered it), but either way you'll definitely want to take advantage of that too while you're at it and already have the plenum removed.  And you may want to put a new gasket on your throttle body when you put it back on afterwards . .  Or, you can take it one step further and get the Motordyne Copper Bypass setup and throw another mod in on-the-fly, and it comes with the TB gasket I think.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2009, 09:54:01 AM »

You don't need the Motordyne Copper Bypass unless you live somewhere where the temperature reaches below freezing often.  Living in TX makes the Motordyne Copper Bypass obsolete, but if you have it installed I don't think it affects the spacer at all in warm temperatures.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2009, 11:19:38 AM »

You don't need the Motordyne Copper Bypass unless you live somewhere where the temperature reaches below freezing often.  Living in TX makes the Motordyne Copper Bypass obsolete, but if you have it installed I don't think it affects the spacer at all in warm temperatures.

It actually works the other way around . . let me see if I can clarify:  The MD Copper Bypass shuts off the continual hot-water flow to the area on the intake plenum around where the throttle body mounts to it. The factory does this to prevent icing-up that occurs in that area in extreme cold temp's, and improves drivability in such areas like up north where it snows a lot.  But obviously, here in triple-digit-heat country, that's hardly a problem to say the least . .

The MD Copper Bypass is a copper plate-like gasket that has a small section of metal tube attached to it, along with a separate inline shutoff valve.  You mount this between the throttle body and the intake plenum, like where the regular gasket goes.  It does two things: 1) If you leave the water flow on, it's still better than the OEM setup because it's only heating the small area right next to the TB butterfly valve where the icing occurs - vs. heating the whole front area of the plenum which robs power, and 2) The inline shutoff valve can be closed for no heating at all for max performance, except in extreme-cold conditions (below freezing). 

This is the way mine is set, and has been set for years now - even in freezing or slightly below freezing temp's I found that it still started and ran fine, and the loss in drivability was minimal at best and only even slightly noticeable for the first mile the car was driven . . past then it warmed up enough on it's own that there was no need to have it on.  I'm sure if I ever go up to RI to see my sister and there's several feet of snow on the ground, then THAT would be a good time to (finally) open the inline valve for heating (only) the TB butterfly-valve (NOT the whole plenum, which is unnecessary).

Bottom line: MD Copper Bypass with inline hot water valve OPEN: Allows just enough heating to do the job, JUST in the area it's needed and not all around it too (like OEM).  Valve CLOSED: This shuts off ALL heating to that area completely.


With so many other cool things like micro-polished crankshafts, carbon-fiber driveshafts (Z only), etc. I would have thought the factory would make it's own (automatic) hot-water shutoff device for this for cars not up north and instead down south in triple-digit heat, but apparently the factory skimped in this dept. much like they did with the starving of the two front cylinders for airflow that occurred from the sloping of the hood.  Guess the "bean counters" won in those dept's. . .


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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 04:31:55 PM »

I have been looking at these and in the process of ordering one by next week. I am going to go with the ISO Thermal 5/16" due to the bypass vlaves etc. that can help in our hot summers, but not going with the copper set up. This coupled with the Z tube and 06'MT REV UP airbox and drop in K&N should sound and work pretty well....thoughts? AND a big thanks to MT7rabbit that has answered some great Q's for me along the way.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 11:28:19 AM »

Sounds good to me
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